A Discworld/GoT crossover: in which Sam Vimes basically just arrests everyone and that’s it that’s the show
In which Vetinari quietly takes over the kingdom via tax reform, while Sam Vimes arrests everyone.
"It was the dumb way the pawns went off and slaughtered their fellow pawns while the kings lounged about doing nothing that always got to him; if only the pawns united, maybe talked the rooks round, the whole board could’ve been a republic in a dozen moves."
This would be a very different story with Vimes in Westeros. Just imagine how he would have taken all the Starks to task for letting honour outweigh common sense.
And then imagine Vetinari taking on certain other houses who think they are Terribly Subtle and Cunning.
I think it’s like you said once, Lyanna is like a receptacle for these man’s projections and therefore for the audience projections, she can be anything they/we want her to be because her voice is never heard, she is silenced.
My issue is that I think Lyanna is tragic but honestly her appeal to fandom seems to be that she was ~interesting enough to attract the attention of two powerful men, and in our society still, women’s worth is defined by the men they attract. I’m not saying Lyanna isn’t worth our interest but honestly from the information we’re given, all I’m getting is that Robert and Rhaegar were complete assholes, about Lyanna and about Elia Martell even more, who often gets brushed away as “Dornish and therefore free enough that she’d be cool with her husband running away with a teenage girl.”
It’s like when thinking about Robert’s Rebellion, I’m so much more interested in younger versions of POV characters, like what was Catelyn thinking at Riverrun pregnant while her husband was god knows where, what was Ned’s thought process when his father and brother were burned alive? And what was Cersei doing storming around Casterly Rock when Jaime was imprisoned by Aerys unable to do anything? What was Jaime thinking when he was watching everything break down and when he got word of Rhaegar’s death?
I’d like to get more on Lyanna (and Ashara since I do think her suicide/red herring status is interesting) but the point is, they’re not fully formed characters at this point since we totally lack their POV. And I also really dislike the “Arya will become Lyanna and super hot/sexy/worthy of our love” because like wow great your relatable tomboy character who was insecure about her looks to the point she didn’t even believe her mother would want her back is now validated because look! she actually is as hot as her aunt so it was all for no reason she was worrying. Good to know women’s worth is still about how pretty they are I mean…
But yeah I think Lyanna isn’t really a character but more what people want her to be. I get defending her as an innocent in war but like. She isn’t a POV character we get full insight to. What did she think? Was she petty, was she childish? Was she always mature and responsible or was her statement about Robert just a lucky guess? We really don’t get enough about her to really know.